Navigating Personal Finances as a Pastor

About The Episode

In this episode of The Unfair Advantage, David Hibiske sits down with Chris Goulard to tackle a topic many pastors and church planters quietly struggle with: personal finances. Drawing from decades of experience in both Wall Street and church ministry, Chris shares why financial stewardship is not just a practical necessity but a pastoral responsibility. Together, they explore the unique financial realities pastors face, from housing allowance and Social Security decisions to retirement planning and budgeting, while emphasizing the importance of theological clarity, discipline, and long-term vision. This conversation offers pastors practical wisdom to care for their families well today while preparing responsibly for the future.

Welcome to Episode 047 of The Unfair Advantage Podcast with David Hibiske.

Insights From Chris

  1. Most Pastors Aren’t Taught How to Handle Money—and That’s Not a Failure

Chris points out that seminaries rarely teach personal finance, and most people—pastors included—enter ministry without a strong financial foundation. This lack of training shouldn’t bring shame, but it does call for intentional learning and humility to ask for help.

  1. Financial Stewardship Starts With Theology, Not Tactics

Before talking budgets or retirement accounts, pastors must develop a clear theology of money. Scripture speaks extensively about stewardship, contentment, and generosity, and pastors can’t shepherd others well in this area if they haven’t wrestled with it personally.

  1. You Can’t Lead What You Don’t Model

Calling a church to tithe without practicing it personally undermines moral authority. Faithful stewardship—especially giving the first 10%—is foundational, even when finances are tight in the early years of ministry.

  1. Budgets Are Spiritual Tools, Not Just Spreadsheets

A budget is a discipline that aligns priorities with values. For young pastors and planters, this often means choosing frugality, practicing contentment, and accepting seasons of sacrifice in order to build a sustainable future.

  1. Housing Allowance Is One of the Biggest Missed Opportunities

Many pastors underutilize their housing allowance simply because they don’t track expenses closely. Items like utilities, cleaning supplies, home maintenance, and furnishings can add up significantly when documented consistently.

  1. Social Security Is a Moral and Financial Decision

Opting out of Social Security as a pastor requires careful consideration, prayer, and planning. While it can be financially advantageous, it only works if pastors are disciplined about saving and ensure they still qualify for Medicare coverage later in life.

  1. Retirement Planning Can’t Wait

Waiting until “things stabilize” is one of the biggest mistakes pastors make. Even small, consistent contributions—especially early on—can dramatically change future outcomes. Doing something is always better than doing nothing.

  1. Poor Financial Planning Has Long-Term Ministry Consequences

Chris highlights the heartbreaking reality of pastors who serve faithfully for decades but face poverty in retirement. Healthy systems—both personal and organizational—help pastors finish well without burdening their families or churches later.

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Who Is Chris Goulard?

Chris Goulard, CFP®, MML, serves as Vice President of Stewardship Initiatives at Financial Planning Ministry (FPM), where he helps churches develop estate planning ministries as a cornerstone of their stewardship initiatives. With over 25 years dedicated to promoting biblical financial stewardship, Chris also chairs the Christian Stewardship Network and frequently teaches on stewardship and generosity. After a successful financial services career as a Vice President at Fidelity Investments, MFS, and Prudential Financial, he joined Saddleback Church in 2004 as Pastor of Stewardship. Over 20 years on staff, he led initiatives such as Financial Freedom Workshops, Estate Planning, and a $50 million giving campaign, fostering a culture of generosity. Chris holds a BA in Economics from Dartmouth, a CFP® designation, and a seminary master’s degree. He and his wife, Jenifer, have been married for 35 years and have two adult sons and two amazing daughters-in-law.

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